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they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning him up. >> what do you think? vice-presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens that joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along very well. there were debt negotiations with those two were the ones that had the best rapport of all the participants. i think it will be a fun and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him and barack obama in the debate. >> i hope it is an existing debate. there were 50 million people watching the first debate. the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play. this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would watch a show that i wanted to. >> it depends on your perspective. i found it fascinating. i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i think he might be slightly skewed. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of uncertain age maintain such a high level of indignation, continuo
they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning him up. >> what do you think? vice-presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens that joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along very well. there were debt negotiations with those two were the ones that had the best rapport of all the participants. i think it will be a fun and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see...
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president obama's campaign said for weeks ohio's comfortably put away, ten points. american cross roads, which i don't head, just a supporter of it, i raise money for it, mu american cross roads' polling before the debate showed the state a two point margin for obama before the debate. if the state is comfortably put away, why is the obama campaign next week increasing its buy in ohio by 50%? you don't add a lot of money, a lot, you know, millions plus on to a state you think you put away. that's is what's happening in ohio next week. president obama's campaign is adding a pretty significant amount to the tv there. lou: how concerned are you about money? by the way, if i misspoke, i apologize, but we got to find out who is running the american crossroads, because i want to talk to them more often. >> his name is steven law. he was the ceo of american crossroads, and a very able guy. lou: i got you. until then, if it's all right, we'll just stick with you. is that all right? >> all right. >> in ohio, around the country, we're looking at the wall street journal report
president obama's campaign said for weeks ohio's comfortably put away, ten points. american cross roads, which i don't head, just a supporter of it, i raise money for it, mu american cross roads' polling before the debate showed the state a two point margin for obama before the debate. if the state is comfortably put away, why is the obama campaign next week increasing its buy in ohio by 50%? you don't add a lot of money, a lot, you know, millions plus on to a state you think you put away....
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perhaps the worst political week of his life. while the president claims that the unexpected news is a sign that america is, quote, moving forward, there are a growing number of skeptics that are crying foul. chief is the former g.e. ceo jack welch. unbelievable job numbers. they can't debate so they change the numbers. he appeared earlier today on "your world." >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist predicted roughly 90,000 to 120,000. this economy doesn't feel like the employment improved this level. it is just -- maybe it's a coincidence that the month before the election, we have a number that comes out 1/10th below when the president took office. >> sean: jack welch is not the only one tawing of this timely development. listen to what business insider said on fox business new york this morning. >> i feel like i am watching a movie, a suspense movie. because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate. and somebody needs to dig real deep into this. h
perhaps the worst political week of his life. while the president claims that the unexpected news is a sign that america is, quote, moving forward, there are a growing number of skeptics that are crying foul. chief is the former g.e. ceo jack welch. unbelievable job numbers. they can't debate so they change the numbers. he appeared earlier today on "your world." >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist predicted...
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and so that's what he's going to do, paul ryan himself in kentucky this week and arguably, he's going to have a harder row to hoe here going into the first presidential debate and barack obama, everyone expected he would win and romney needs to put in a good performance and in fact did very well. the argument here is that paul ryan is so great and he will hold his own, but no one should underestimate joe biden. he's going to be okay out there. >> paul: this may be something of a trap for ryan because you know, the media expectation he's going to do so well and he's a numbers guy and knows his brief and so on, but widen is a real slasher and he's going to go after, i assume, mitt romney, hammer and tong. what does ryan have to do here in this debate? >> well, he's going to have to fight back, paul. there was once a debate called a kitchen debate. this is going to be the kitchen sink debate and joe biden is going to throw one kitchen sink after another at ryan and he is going to bring up the 47%, he will bring up the war on women, he will bring up bain capital. he'll throw all of this.
and so that's what he's going to do, paul ryan himself in kentucky this week and arguably, he's going to have a harder row to hoe here going into the first presidential debate and barack obama, everyone expected he would win and romney needs to put in a good performance and in fact did very well. the argument here is that paul ryan is so great and he will hold his own, but no one should underestimate joe biden. he's going to be okay out there. >> paul: this may be something of a trap for...
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i am less interested in what this says in the debates but whoever wins in the week or two after the election. that is the time to step up and do the broader leadership. >> what would you like your president obama said? -- to hear president obama say? >> the we're not want of a deal that has revenues and spending in the biggest obstacle is on the revenue side, and i do believe my perception is correct, and that is republicans continue to believe at the end of the day democrats will reluctant then as they did in 2011 and 2010. one of the things the president has to do is make it crystal clear he is serious and will not accept a deal, but does not have revenues and spending. i think that when that becomes accepted,, that is when we go into january. the sooner that is believed, that lays the predicate for both sides to get a bipartisan deal. >> i want to follow up on a question or issue that the raised, and it is about behavioral response to the looming fiscal clip. you suggested we are already starting to see response. >> i think so. everyone is credit -- incredibly myopic.tly i think that is r
i am less interested in what this says in the debates but whoever wins in the week or two after the election. that is the time to step up and do the broader leadership. >> what would you like your president obama said? -- to hear president obama say? >> the we're not want of a deal that has revenues and spending in the biggest obstacle is on the revenue side, and i do believe my perception is correct, and that is republicans continue to believe at the end of the day democrats will...
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millions of us were waiting this week for mitt romney and barack obama to connect with reality, to connect with the lives we actually live. it didn't happen. the 90-minute debate went by, for example, without a word about immigration. not a thing said about the countless people trapped in our muddled policy. and this in colorado, a swing state, where both romney and obama have been courting the large hispanic vote. that wouldn't have happened if my guest on this week's broadcast had been moderating the debate, but their participation was rejected by the tiny group of insiders who set the rules. that's a shame because george ram mows and maria elena sorena are two of the most popular journalists. they work for the most important spanish language network in the country, univision. i met them for the first time earlier this week when they were in town to receive the emmy award for lifetime achievement from the national academy of television arts and sciences. here's part of the video presentation that introduced them to the emmy audience. >> they're two of the most well-recognized journalists
millions of us were waiting this week for mitt romney and barack obama to connect with reality, to connect with the lives we actually live. it didn't happen. the 90-minute debate went by, for example, without a word about immigration. not a thing said about the countless people trapped in our muddled policy. and this in colorado, a swing state, where both romney and obama have been courting the large hispanic vote. that wouldn't have happened if my guest on this week's broadcast had been...
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until denver this past week. in the highly polarized e lack or ituate environment. both campaigns have strategically been pealing repealing to the respective political bases. what's been unusual about the election cycle is most voters have picked sides early. we do our polling even as right after the conventions, it looks like the final weekend of the campaign. most voters know who they support. they tell us their they are firmly committed to the candidate and the number of undecided voters has been surprisingly very, very low. single digits. it's not about persuasion. it's more about mobilization both of the conventions were like that. i think in the next three or four weeks we'll see lot more. mobilizes folks to come out because of the early voting which started in so many states. the middle is shrinking. as far as these campaigns are concerned. bash is going to talk about shortly about how there is still a middle to america once you get beyond the campaign labels. but clearly those what drive strategy in campa
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>> roller coaster week hitting a high note for president obama. the new jobless numbers are easing the pain of his poor debate performance and bring romney's momentum to a sharp stop or it may not. joining me now, "new york times" columnist, nick kristof. let's start with the job figures today. because it's clearly good news for barack obama politically if nothing else. >> not only the numbers today but the revisions for the last two months. we seem to really be on a trajectory and you know, this is going -- apparently what really matters is not the economy for the year but the economy at the moment as people approach the election. people are beginning to vote. >> the good news for barack obama there. not so good news his performance at the debate. common consensus is a bit of a turkey. >> he blew it. >> why did he blow it? he's such a skillful orator usually. >> it's a paradox. he's a skillful communicator at his best and he was really at his worst. there are various theories. one is that he was coached it would be unpresidential to attack, that
>> roller coaster week hitting a high note for president obama. the new jobless numbers are easing the pain of his poor debate performance and bring romney's momentum to a sharp stop or it may not. joining me now, "new york times" columnist, nick kristof. let's start with the job figures today. because it's clearly good news for barack obama politically if nothing else. >> not only the numbers today but the revisions for the last two months. we seem to really be on a...
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past week. in this highly polarized environment both campaigns have strategically been appealing to their respective political bases. what is unusual about this election cycle is most voters have picked sides early and lead to our polling right after the convention. looks like the final weekend of the campaign. they tell us they are firmly committed to their candidate and the number of undecided voters has been surprisingly very low. single digits. it is not about persuasion. it is about mobilization. both of the conventions were like that. in the next few weeks we will see a lot about mobilizing folks to come out particularly because of early voting which has started in so many states. the middle is shrinking as far as these campaigns are concerned. we will talk about how there is still a middle to america. once you get beyond the campaign labels but clearly those are what drive strategy in campaigns and the electoral politics. if you look at the campaign ads, in new york we are not -- we don't
past week. in this highly polarized environment both campaigns have strategically been appealing to their respective political bases. what is unusual about this election cycle is most voters have picked sides early and lead to our polling right after the convention. looks like the final weekend of the campaign. they tell us they are firmly committed to their candidate and the number of undecided voters has been surprisingly very low. single digits. it is not about persuasion. it is about...
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week? >> it's no surprise that barack obama raised this much money. we knew they was going to raise this much money all along. in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking about major donors. we're talking about people who saw his debate and liked what they saw. >> 60% of them are new donors. so i think the romney campaign is very pleased with this. and what you saw tuesday night in the debate, you took the money off the table, you had the president and governor trromney speaking unfiltered to the people, and people really liked what they heard from mitt romney. >> but some people might not consider exactly what mitt romney said as unfiltered. take a listen to what he said about cutting taxes
week? >> it's no surprise that barack obama raised this much money. we knew they was going to raise this much money all along. in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking...
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, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. with more now, here's lester. >>> they mentioned the latest unemployment numbers. is the economy really recovering? we're here with audio look inside the numbers. help me understand this now. the actual number of jobs added in september was not a huge increase, but we still saw this drop of the overall rate to 7.8%. how does that work? >> two big things. first of all, 86,000 more jobs were added in july and august together than originally expected. august had those dismal statistics that made president obama look not so great in his recovery
, who's been buried under obama leadership. then he promised a trillion-dollar tax increase a couple of days ago. we want more biden as republicans. more biden. >> don't underestimate joe biden and his decades of serving washington and knowing washington. paul ryan, i wish you the best of luck. >> and joe biden is a great man and we wish him well, and we hope he keeps talking a lot. >> that's your "morning joe" political wrap. >> and you can catch joe and mika...
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as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the debate than they are for joe biden, which, as we know, when expectations are higher, then that candidate can tend to have a bigger problem. so i think joe biden probably will outperform the expectations for him on thursday night. >> well, to both of you, what are paul ryan's strengths and weaknesses going into this debate? >> i think probably his strengths is that he is a fresh face. that gives a lot of opportunity coming into something where you can introduce yourself to the country. and on a big stage, the downside i think for paul vine the inexperience on such a stage. he's really not only been on the national stage debating, but even on a congressional level, he hasn't had a competitive race since his first one in 1996. so i think he's
as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the debate than they are for joe biden, which, as we know, when expectations are higher, then that candidate can tend to have a bigger problem. so i think joe biden probably will...
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i mean biden obama as a team at this point. but i think that the president, is just going to forget the first debate and be ready in the second one to make his case. and to engage. he wasn't ingauged. if you turn down the sound on wednesday night and just watch those two people, he is did not look happy to be there. and mitt romney did. >> what about the vice president, are the expectations now raised, as mark says. >> i think so. >> in part there is a little more pressure on joe biden because as mark said he has to do well. and hyperactive joe biden is a high risk proposition. it could turn out well and i happen to think he's pretty good debater. de well, i thought against sarah palin. de well when he ran for president. he's an eloquent guy who in the big debates has always been a very controlled figure. but paul ryan has what mitt romney had, which is the ability to real off number after number. and again i'm struck by the fact that you can get wonky this year. people somehow seem to want that. and ryan certainly has that cap
i mean biden obama as a team at this point. but i think that the president, is just going to forget the first debate and be ready in the second one to make his case. and to engage. he wasn't ingauged. if you turn down the sound on wednesday night and just watch those two people, he is did not look happy to be there. and mitt romney did. >> what about the vice president, are the expectations now raised, as mark says. >> i think so. >> in part there is a little more pressure on...
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this week americans watched the debate between president obama and mitt romney and the crystallize the choice we face. it was painfully clear during the debate the president obama has no new ideas to fix the economy. his only plan for a second term as a tax increase so large it would destroy over 700,000 jobs. as friday's jobs report shows, america still desperately needs jobs. it the president's soul proposal would mean fewer jobs. we need a new direction. because we cannot afford four more years like the last four. falling incomes, rising prices, 23 million americans struggling for work. $5.50 trillion in new national debt. and now growing turmoil overseas in the middle east. president obama's policies have not worked. as vice president biden admitted, the middle-class has been buried in the last four years. another four years would does barry the middle class even more. during the 2008 debate, then senator obama assured us that he fully understood our problems and that he had the right solution. he promised to make health care more affordable. yeah president obama promise to get our
this week americans watched the debate between president obama and mitt romney and the crystallize the choice we face. it was painfully clear during the debate the president obama has no new ideas to fix the economy. his only plan for a second term as a tax increase so large it would destroy over 700,000 jobs. as friday's jobs report shows, america still desperately needs jobs. it the president's soul proposal would mean fewer jobs. we need a new direction. because we cannot afford four more...
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i'm out to believe what barack obama says about unemployment level of seven point eight percent it's disaster it's a catastrophe that's what he said when he took office and so we're here in office and we're happy to be at seven point eight percent unemployment and i do think that there's something suspicious with these numbers not maybe i think i think jobs of i mean one of the important things to look at these numbers is a look at the under. limit rates amount but twenty to twenty four each cohort getting it at least in that cohort but. the unemployment rates jumped the largest increase in the month of september since one thousand nine hundred three so that's telling me that either they're not going back to school or they are taking part time jobs and most of all part time jobs and you know you can pick and choose when you want to be a conspiracy theorist here really why wouldn't the administration cooked the books before the midterms why would the administration trying to accomplish that if they were only ten percent when their billionaire and percent look just today the daily call
i'm out to believe what barack obama says about unemployment level of seven point eight percent it's disaster it's a catastrophe that's what he said when he took office and so we're here in office and we're happy to be at seven point eight percent unemployment and i do think that there's something suspicious with these numbers not maybe i think i think jobs of i mean one of the important things to look at these numbers is a look at the under. limit rates amount but twenty to twenty four each...
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everybody is talking about president obama's body demeanor this week. what does tanya reiman think. i want to start with the two candidates walking into the debate forum. >> all righty. >> we welcome president obama and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> bill: okay. so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not the first thing i notice. the first thing i notice was the swagger that the president came out with. >> bill: he was bopping. >> his arms are swinging high. romney is not. he is very stiff when it comes to walking out an stage. then the hands meet. the patting goes on. the most interesting thing about that is as someone is trying to pat your arm demonstrating is he powerful. president obama comes across as powerful because is he patting. romney had the same amount of power going on. >> bill: do you believe that they actually think about what's going to happen when they walk out and how they are going to shake hands and th
everybody is talking about president obama's body demeanor this week. what does tanya reiman think. i want to start with the two candidates walking into the debate forum. >> all righty. >> we welcome president obama and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> bill: okay. so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not...
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it took him a week. he said, quote, completely wrong. five years later, has president obama adjusted to anything in that speech? no. >> and the difference is the "new york times" has covered the 47% video and they have not covered the video from barack obama. >> it's on not in the same universe. it rail isn't. i know conservatives are trying push that, but it is not in the same universe. >> jon: all right, next on news watch, uni' vision's report on fast and furious might put the mainstream media to shame. >>. >> jon: univision the spanish language television network had a shocking documentary linking the fast and furious gun running scandal to a bloody massacre in mexico in which 16 teenagers were killed in january 2010. abc, cbs and nbc have largely ignored the follow-up on this story. univision and praise they deserve putting it out there? >> kudos to them and it was really well researched piece. they decided to really follow the evidence. that is exactly what i think we need to require the media is to go after this. univision did, no
it took him a week. he said, quote, completely wrong. five years later, has president obama adjusted to anything in that speech? no. >> and the difference is the "new york times" has covered the 47% video and they have not covered the video from barack obama. >> it's on not in the same universe. it rail isn't. i know conservatives are trying push that, but it is not in the same universe. >> jon: all right, next on news watch, uni' vision's report on fast and furious...
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president obama gave a nod, he knew what had happened. it was a subtle use. >> greta: how important do you think the vice-presidential debate is? >> i continuing it will be important for the week, in that is -- it is the only show in town. there is no other presidential debate. so for the next week, it will be vitally important, it's the only show in town. people will be watching it. in the end, i don't think it's going to play much. i don't think there is a history of presidential debates, let alone, vice-presidential debates. >> greta: paying attention to the heart beat. >> i tend to agree but i do think have you early voting and people are voting every day. so whether or not, you know, it's all about the momentum at this point. moment's changing on a daily basis from, debate to jobs numbers. this is the next big thing. if you are losing the next big thing, you are losing that day, that week. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy
president obama gave a nod, he knew what had happened. it was a subtle use. >> greta: how important do you think the vice-presidential debate is? >> i continuing it will be important for the week, in that is -- it is the only show in town. there is no other presidential debate. so for the next week, it will be vitally important, it's the only show in town. people will be watching it. in the end, i don't think it's going to play much. i don't think there is a history of presidential...